От Роман Алымов
К All
Дата 18.05.2001 14:59:35
Рубрики WWII; Танки;

Ешё на тему Pz IV (+)

Пришел мне тут ответ от амера, который сайт "Pz IV univerce" ( http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/willphelps/ ) делает. Привожу целиком, с цитатами из моего письма ему. Сулит, однако, гору бумаги по четвёрке....


Subject: RE: About Pz IV


Hi Roman,

> Before we started our work, tank looked like this:
> (See attached file: Pz IV_before.jpg)


Have you found machine guns yet?


> And this is first review of driver's place:
> (See attached file: Pz4_003.mpg)


These MPeGs are nice. It looks like the data plate might still be in place
there in front of the driver?! Can you tell me the tank's chassis number
(in German: "Fahrgestell Nummer")?


> Opening engine hatch (some effort was needed :-) ):
> (See attached file: Pz4_004.mpg)


"Effort", yes :-)


> We have many more mpegs, so it is only some of them.


OK -- great
> About the gun - seems like because of lack of air pressure in
recoil
> system the barrel simply slided backwards into full recoil position. Some
> cleaning and force of one men from inside the turret was enough to bring
it
> back to normal position, where it was temporary fixed by chain (seems
like this
> chain was installed when the tank was still running, as simple measure to
deal
> with sliding gun - since nobody was willing to add air pressure into
recoil
> system). It was, probably, more then 40 years ago. We hope to use
Russian
> 76-mm gun 3-position pump to fix the problem completely, but it is not
our main
> problem right now. (on this photo gun is fixed by chain).
> (See attached file: Pz IV_gun&Chain.jpg)


Interesting

> It is the gun back in normal position ? the recoil length is clearly
visible
> (tank was painted with with gun in full recoil):
> (See attached file: Pz IV_gun.jpg)


Yes -- good picture. My colleague Rudi Schoeters and I have been working on
a book about surviving Pz. IV's and variants. Can we obtain permission to
publish this photo in our book?


>
? high-resolution view (taken through
left
> turret hatch) of gun (in normal position). Other high-quality photos
you can


It looks like a big piece of steel has been attached around/below the re
coil guard. Do you know what that is?


> see at http://www.vif2.ru:8080/asp/vif2/images/areas.asp?link=521&page=1
and
> http://www.vif2.ru:8080/asp/vif2/images/areas.asp?link=521&page=2 They
 show
> the tank in restoration area (the restoration started right in the
exposition
> area, but then this Pz IV was towed by BTR-80 (!) into restoration
building).


These photos are of great interest -- are you the photographer?


> You can see the first stage of restoration (digital photos) at
> http://www.itc.ufg.ru/~tanki/, with new pictures coming soon. If you
can't open
> it, I'll send you via e-mail.


Yes, the three sections with the title "??????? - ????????? ??", correct?
More good photos. So these were taken April 22, 2001? It seems that some
were taken while the tank was still in the display hall and some in the
maintenance building, no? So it was moved on April 22? Are you in the
photos? Who are the pretty 'tank girls'?


> By the way, can you please read this? (on engine compartment wall)
> (See attached file: Pz IV_plate.jpg)


My best guess:

"Attention! Turn the starter only when motor is enabled"

In other words: Make sure the ignition is turned on before cranking the
engine over. I'll check with Rudi to be sure as his German is much better
than mine.


> And may be this? (on engine)
>
> (See attached file: Pz IV_plate_on_engine.jpg)


It appears to be a maintenance schedule. We will need Rudi's skills since
so many of the letters are unreadable. I'll let you know soon.


> The vehicle was full of sand and dirt - may be because of
 construction
> features of cooling system? So we have removed up to 100 kilograms of
sand from
> inside the tank. It is quite a difficult work because the tank is not
too roomy


Good question


> to reach any corner with ease. The air filter was full of rainwater,
because
> till 1976 all vehicles was stored outdoor. Many details are quite
rusty, but
> overall condition is quite good. By the way this vehicle also lacks
auxiliary
> engine.


That is unfortunate as a replacement will be almost impossible to find. I
noticed that the control panel seems to be missing also...unless perhaps it
is in storage waiting to be put back in.


> (See attached file: PZ4_018.mpg)
> This mpeg file show me working with vehicle's two Solex carbs. We
have
> removed them for repair. Ignition candles also have to be replaced, as
well as
> ignition wires. By the way at least one candle was US ?made :-)
 Probably it
> was installed after the war?


Probably...though, believe it or not, the Germans had many commercial
arrangements with private US industry -- such as Ford, for example. I have
heard that US Strategic bombing plans took into account US commercial
interests and thus certain towns or factories were 'overlooked'.


> (See attached file: Pz IV_candle.jpg)
> Magneto seems to be fine, but we will face problem of setting proper
ignition
> moment.


Yes, it could be difficult to adjust the timing. Hopefully we will find
help for you in this area.


> If you have some manuals, we will be happy to get copy of them!
Is it
> possible to get copies in digital format? If not, I will give you my
office
> mailing address (it is faster).


I have the first package of Pz. IV technical manuals ready to mail to you.
There are hundreds of pages -- too much to scan and e-mail. Please send me
the postal address you want me to use.


> Do you need some specific photos of the vehicle? May be we
will soon
> create a webpage containing all available images and reels.


If the data with serial number still exists it would be nice to have a
close-up photo of that. But any and all photos are of interest...epecially
interior and progress photos.


> About spares: we hope that we will be find everything needed here in
Russia,
> but we need some technical information, for example regarding Bosh W 225
T1
> ignition candles. Any information about the tank, especially engine and
gearbox,
> will be extremely useful!!!


I will ask around about the ignition candles (called "spark plugs" here in
the US). I have several contacts that have worked on this same engine, so
I'm sure we can find a solution. This first packet of manuals will not have
much information about the engine and gearbox, but soon I will have more
and will send you copies as they become available.

I would love to see your Russian-Language Pz. III manual -- will you mail
to me a copy?


--Will

P.S. Я вчера купил могучий шприц для промывки-заливки, правда неплохо бы к нему ещё что-то типа наконечника сделать....
От Alexey Samsonov
К Роман Алымов (18.05.2001 14:59:35)
Дата 18.05.2001 17:02:04

Отсос-шприц.


>P.S. Я вчера купил могучий шприц для промывки-заливки, правда неплохо бы к нему ещё что-то типа наконечника сделать....

Роман, я подобрал трубку к своим шприцам. Пластиковая, сволочь:-( но это как раз то, что надо для запихать между свечкой и стенкой колодца и отсосать дерьмище прямо со дна. Основная масса соляры из колодцев второго ряда откачается твоим монстром, а чистовую обработку оставь до моего прибытия в воскресенье (я по любому буду). Ни в коем случае не надо заливать повторно в те колодцы, где свечи уже вынимались: свечи завернуты не до конца, говнище подберется к резьбе вплотную (сейчас осталась чистая полоса вокруг отверстия), его оттуда никак не вынуть - а при повторном отворачивании свечки все посыплется в котлы:-( Если будет очистительный зуд - то надо аккуратно вывернуть свечу, заткнуть отверстие пробкой (хоть из палки выстругать) и тогда чистить.

А вообще лучше потратить субботу для снять коромысла со второго блока и расходить его клапана. Одновременно с чисткой свечных колодцев этого все равно не сделать:-) места в МТО маловато:-)
От Alex Lee
К Роман Алымов (18.05.2001 14:59:35)
Дата 18.05.2001 16:17:04

Ну вот и покупатель на фотографии нашелся. : ) (-)
От Роман Алымов
К Alex Lee (18.05.2001 16:17:04)
Дата 18.05.2001 16:20:38

Вообще-то все эти фотки в сети бесплатно лежат :-) (-)
От Alex Lee
К Роман Алымов (18.05.2001 16:20:38)
Дата 18.05.2001 16:28:24

Так вот я и намекаю...из сети - изьять, буржуям - продать. Деньги пропить. : ) (-)