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От	А.Никольский
К	All
Дата	10.03.2009 20:45:10
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Тут паки о чем-то с КНР договорись по истребителям - никто Janes не потырит?

Pakistan reveals plans for JF-17 and J-10 fighters
Pakistan's key aircraft manufacturing facility, the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, and China's CATIC (China Aviation Technology Import-Export Corporation), signed an agreement on 7 March for the...
10-Mar-2009

Заранее большое спасибо!

От	Exeter
К	А.Никольский (10.03.2009 20:45:10)
Дата	11.03.2009 03:02:16

Re: Тут паки...

Здравствуйте, уважаемый А. Никольский!

Вкратце - пакистанское авиапредприятие Pakistan Aeronautical Complex в Камра и китайская компания САТIC подписали контракт на совместное производство в Камра 42 истребителей JF-17 для ВВС Пакистана. Первый самолет должен быть готов в конце 2009 г. Всего Пакистан планирует приобрести 250 истребителей JF-17 к 2013-2015 гг. Темп их выпуска в Камра должен первоначально составлять 15 самолетов в год с перспективой увеличения до 30 в год.
Оценочная стоимость 42 самолетов составляет 1 млрд. долл., и видимо китайы дадут пакам под это дело кредит.
Сейчас Пакистан располагает восемью самолетами JF-17, все они были построены в Китае.

Одновременно командующий ВВС Пакистана сообщил, что стоимость 36 планируемых к закупке Пакистаном истребителей J-10 (FC-20) составит 1,5 млрд. долл. Получение этих самолетов ожидается в 2014-2015 гг. Он также сказал, что первый из четырех заказанных в Китае самолетов ДРЛО должен поступить в 2010 г., и что Пакистан заплатит лишь 10% стоимости этих самолетов ДРЛО после получения первого самолета, а остальную сумму будет выплачивать небольшими траншами в рассрочку.

Date Posted: 10-Mar-2009

Jane's Defence Weekly

Pakistan reveals plans for JF-17 and J-10 fighters

Farhan Bokhari JDW Correspondent
Islamabad

Pakistan's key aircraft manufacturing facility, the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, and China's CATIC (China Aviation Technology Import-Export Corporation), signed an agreement on 7 March for the serial production of 42 JF-17 'Thunder' fighter aircraft in Pakistan.

The announcement came as the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) chief, Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mehmood Ahmed, confirmed that Pakistan expected to start taking delivery of the more advanced J-10 fighter aircraft from China by 2014-15.

ACM Ahmed, whose tenure as PAF chief ends on 18 March, said the PAC in Kamra would initially produce 15 JF-17s annually, raising its production capacity to 30 aircraft a year. He said the "programme will be carried out in phases", but did not specify the timeframe in which the production capacity would be increased. Pakistani defence ministry officials said the first of the 42 JF-17s to be produced in Pakistan would be manufactured and airworthy before the end of 2009.

The PAF intends the JF-17 to become the main backbone of its fleet and it plans to acquire up to 250 of the aircraft by 2013-2015. The PAF has so far acquired eight JF-17s, all of which were manufactured in China.

Western defence analysts in Islamabad said the agreement suggested that China had given financial credit to cash-starved Pakistan, giving a lift to the south Asian country's defence procurement plans as it battles economic difficulties.

"I estimate the 42 JF-17s are worth over USD1 billion," one Western official told Jane's . "As Pakistan faces economic difficulties, China must have agreed to give either long-term credit or some other arrangement for this programme to be launched."

Meanwhile, ACM Ahmed - who told Jane's in December that the PAF was interested in purchasing 36 J-10s - has now revealed that the cost of purchasing the J-10s (which will be known as FC-20s in Pakistani service) along with support systems would be in the region of USD1.5 billion.

According to the Associated Press of Pakistan, ACM Ahmed also disclosed that delivery of the first of four airborne early warning and control system aircraft that Pakistan has ordered from China is due in 2010. He added that Pakistan would pay 10 per cent of the cost of that deal upon receipt of the first aircraft, while the rest of the payments would be made in "easy instalments". No details of the timeframe were given.

When ACM Ahmed retires later this month, he is due to be replaced by Air Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, the PAF's Deputy Chief of Air Staff for operations.

С уважением, Exeter

От	А.Никольский
К	Exeter (11.03.2009 03:02:16)
Дата	11.03.2009 13:22:32

Спасибо большое!

>Вкратце - пакистанское авиапредприятие Pakistan Aeronautical Complex в Камра и китайская компания САТIC подписали контракт на совместное производство в Камра 42 истребителей JF-17 для ВВС Пакистана.
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ИМХО в Китай до 50 РД-93 уже поставлено

>Одновременно командующий ВВС Пакистана сообщил, что стоимость 36 планируемых к закупке Пакистаном истребителей J-10 (FC-20) составит 1,5 млрд. долл.
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не такой и дешевый самолет! Поставка 24 Су-30 в не эксплуатировавшую их ранее Венесуэлу (видимо, как-то можно условно сравнить эти сделки) стоила те же 1,5 млрд долл, а 24 Су-30 уж точно не хуже 36 J-10
С уважением, А.Никольский

От	Геннадий Нечаев
К	Exeter (11.03.2009 03:02:16)
Дата	11.03.2009 10:45:57

Re: Тут паки...

Ave!

А из кого они собираются ДРЛО делать? Местный клон Ан-12, поди?

>С уважением, Exeter
Omnia mea mecum porto

От	Admiral
К	Exeter (11.03.2009 03:02:16)
Дата	11.03.2009 10:44:07

Ленд-лиз по китайски )). + свой авиапром разовьют (-)

От	Игорь Прокопьев
К	А.Никольский (10.03.2009 20:45:10)
Дата	11.03.2009 00:44:09

Не с Джейнса, но про это же...

The Associated Press of Pakistan reports that a contract for 42 co-produced JF-17s has been signed in Islamabad by China’s CATIC and the Pakistani Air Force, financed by “seller’s credit.” Production capacity is listed at 15 aircraft in the first year, rising to 30 aircraft per year thereafter.

Pakistan has been flying 8 aircraft to work out tactics, techniques, and procedures, and expects to stand up the first JF-17 squadron before the end of 2009. The aircraft will be based at Peshawar, alongside existing Chinese-made Q-5/A-5C “Fantan” fighters that are a hugely modified Chinese derivative of the MiG-19, and their accompanying JJ-6/FT-6 MiG-19 trainers.

The article adds a quote from Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mehmood Ahmed. He reiterated that cooperation on China’s canard-winged J-10/FC-20 is also progressing, with first deliveries to Pakistan expected in 2014-15. CATIC’s President MA Zhiping reportedly added that the first FC-20 aircraft built under that agreement would fly in 2009. APP

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/stuck-in-sichuan-pakistani-jf17-program-grounded-02984/

От	ZIL
К	Игорь Прокопьев (11.03.2009 00:44:09)
Дата	11.03.2009 03:10:30

Re: Не с

Добрый день!

>The Associated Press of Pakistan reports that a contract for 42 co-produced JF-17s has been signed in Islamabad by China’s CATIC and the Pakistani Air Force, financed by “seller’s credit.” Production capacity is listed at 15 aircraft in the first year, rising to 30 aircraft per year thereafter.

Интересно, чем пакистанцы собираются расплачиваться - натурой? У них же вроде кризис бушевал - чуть не случилось дефолта.

С уважением, ЗИЛ.