ВИФ2 NE : Ветка : в серединке 12-й страницы

От	Константин Федченко
К	Красвоенлет
Дата	24.11.2011 20:35:33
Рубрики	WWII;

в серединке 12-й страницы

http://www.histomil.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=3918&start=110
ряд фото с трофейными Гочкисами H-35, H-39 (люки немецкие на всех стоят). А вот окружающая обстановка какая-то странная - то бурно растущие папоротники, то зимняя резко пересеченная местность, то вдруг минарет...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-169-0915-24%2C_Jugoslawien%2C_Rastplatz_deutscher_LKW_und_Panzer_H39.jpg

неужели и правда - Югославия? ни в одном источнике раньше ничего подобного не встречал, что это за подразделение?
211 PzAbt имел французские танки, но находился в Финляндии....

С уважением

От	negeral
К	Константин Федченко (24.11.2011 20:35:33)
Дата	25.11.2011 10:56:03

Вы дальше листайте, там пойдут эти же фото но с подписями. (-)

От	ЖУР
К	Константин Федченко (24.11.2011 20:35:33)
Дата	24.11.2011 21:33:09

ИМХО I./Panzer-Regiment 202 (-)

От	Skvortsov
К	ЖУР (24.11.2011 21:33:09)
Дата	25.11.2011 00:03:09

Похоже, там фото танков трех разных подразделений.

Одно - на трофейных югославских R35.
Второе - на H-39 со стандартным решетчатым хвостом.
Третье - на H-39 c переделанными хвостами.

От	Skvortsov
К	Skvortsov (25.11.2011 00:03:09)
Дата	25.11.2011 00:15:57

Возможно, R-35 и H-39 с эмблемой "V" принадлежали Pz.Kp.z.b.V.12 (-)

От	Константин Федченко
К	ЖУР (24.11.2011 21:33:09)
Дата	24.11.2011 22:59:36

а поподробнее? где действовал, кому был придан? где почитать? (-)

От	ЖУР
К	Константин Федченко (24.11.2011 22:59:36)
Дата	24.11.2011 23:17:11

Действовал отдельно от полка. Вместе с 342 пд гонял в 41 партизан в Сербии.

I./Panzer-Rgt.202 (from 2 January 1943: Panzer-Abt.202)

1941: Arrived in Belgrade from France on 17 September equipped with 18 Somua S-35 (4.7cm) and 41 Hotchkiss H-38 and H-39 (3.7cm) French light tanks. Organizationally, the battalion had a HQ company and tank companies 1 - 3, with a table of equipment calling for 14 Somua and 41 Hotchkiss tanks. To the end of 1941, I./202 operated primarily in Serbia in support of the 342d Inf.Div.

1942: During January the battalion was engaged in Operation “Süd Kroatien”, along the Drina River between Zvornik and Visegrad. On 7 February it was attached to the 714th Inf.Div., with HQ in Va1jevo on 28 March and Sabac on 31 May. At this time I./202 had an average strength of 766 officers and men. In June it moved to Bosnia with the 714th Inf.Div. for Operation '”Westbosnien'” with headquarters, under the command of Oberst1eutnant von Geyso, located in Slavonski Brod on 20 July. From here the battalion moved to Banja Luka in August and then a few weeks later to Kostajnica, where it remained until the end of January 1943. The battalion’s 3d company, meanwhile, was detached in the Sarajevo area in support of the 718th Inf.Div.

1943: Re-designated Panzer-Abtei1ung 202 on 2 January, the battalion participated in Operation “Weiss” beginning on the 20th in support of 717th Inf.Div driving southeast through Sanski Most toward Sarajevo, where it was located in mid-April in support of the 369th Inf.Div. Operation “Weiss” was followed by Operation “Schwarz” in June, and on conclusion of the latter 202 transferred back to the Banja Luka area. From 26 August the battalion was attached to the XVth Mountain Corps and operated throughout Bosnia, but usually in the Bosanski Novi – Prijedor - Banja Luka area.

1944: The battalion remained in support of the XVth Mountain Corps during the first half of 1944. On 12 April it reported its Stab, 1.u.3.Kp./202 in Srb (on road between Bihac and Knin) operating with 373. Inf.Div., 2./202 was in Kostajnica re-equipping with Italian tanks. As of 10 April 44 its equipment status was said to consist of: 1e.Stabs-Zug (with 6 Italian tanks), 1.Kp.(to be re-equipped with 13 Italian tanks), 2.Kp.(re-equipping with 13 Italian tanks), 3.Kp.(with 10 French Somua tanks). All of the Abteilung’s French Hotchkiss tanks had been returned to Paris for major factory-level overhaul because they had an average 9,000 km on the odometer). The Abteilung Kommandeur at this time was a Major named Than, or T.Han, or Lau (poor legibility in the original document). Beginning on 25 May, it was used in Operation “Rösse1sprung”, the unsuccessful German effort to capture Tito and his staff at Drvar. At the end of August 1944, 202 had its HQ at Knin and was in support of operations being conducted by the 373d Inf.Div. In September the German front in the Balkans began to collapse and the Abteilung was moved south to help block Russian forces advancing from Romania and Bu1garia. With HQ in Brcko on 18 November, 202 was transferred to the Visegrad area in December, attached to the 181st Inf.Div., and used in defense of the Drina River line from Visegrad north toward Zvornik and Bije1jina.

1945: At the end of February, Panzer-Abt. 202 was transferred from the Visegrad area to around Osijek where it fought under the LXXXXI. Armee-Korps. During April it carried out a fighting withdrawal along the Drava Valley as part of Kampfgruppe Fischer, eventually coming under the LXIX. Armee-Korps. The battalion was captured by Yugoslav forces in the Ce1je area (Slovenia) on 10 May.

ЖУР

От	Константин Федченко
К	ЖУР (24.11.2011 23:17:11)
Дата	24.11.2011 23:42:39