От skipper
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Дата 27.03.2002 00:48:23
Рубрики Современность; Стрелковое оружие; Байки; Локальные конфликты;

Штыковая атака - 1982, Фолкленды (+)

Однако, сабж имел место. А говорят еще, что штык-ножом от АКМа только колбаску резать...

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I don't pretend that this is by any means a complete list, but here are a couple of snippets from Nick van der Bijl's "Nine Battles to Stanley" (Leo Cooper, Barnsley, 1999):

At Top Malo house (the order to fix bayonets having been given previously), the M&AW commander "ordered the assault group to advance in skirmish order, as had been practised so often before and which he had briefed the previous night, with two teams of four leapfrogging each other. But, to his utter astonishment, the carefully thought-out plan was totally ignored and all eleven Royal Marines rose, and yelling and screaming, charged down the slope, leaving their commander behind". This attack drove the Argentines out of the house and then seems to have degenerated into a confused shooting-match at close range until the Argentines surrendered. The defeated Argentines were elite naval commandos, adequately equipped with self-loading and automatic weapons.

During the night attack on Mount Tumbledown, Major John Kiszely, CO of Left Flank Coy of the Scots Guards "found himself in front of 15 platoon and was heard to shout "Are you with me, 15 platoon?" Silence. "Come on , 15 platoon, are you with me?" Silence, and then a reluctant "Och aye, sir. I'm with you!" and "Aye, sir. I'm f****** with you!" from the other side. Led by their company commander, 15 platoon surged up the slope and charged the marines with bayonets fixed. Kiszely stabbed a dark figure who collapsed back into his trench holding his chest. The Argentine marines and army were slowly overwhelmed, losing seven marines and five army killed, several wounded and others missing. Left Flank bit deep into Vasquez' defences and eventually Kiszely and seven men reached the summit. There was a violent scuffle in the darkness among the rocks before the last of the defenders were driven off. Far below the British saw the lights of Stanley, the ultimate objective."

Here is the account from Martin Middlebrook's "Task Force" (revised edition, Penguin, London, 1987) of "Dytor's Charge", for which Lt. Clive Dytor won the MC on Two Sisters leading 8 Troop, Z Coy, 45 Royal Marine Commando. These are Dytor's own words:

"It came to a point where I realized it was a stalemate and I actually remembered, at that point, a piece from a book I had read once -- in a book called "The Sharp End" -- a bit about the Black Watch in the Second World War. The adjutant had got up and waved his stick and said, "Is this the Black Watch?" and been killed immediately, but the whole unit had got on then, surged forward. I remember thinking about that and then, before I knew it I suppose, I was up and running forward in the gap between my two forward sections. I shouted "Forward everybody!" I was shouting "Zulu! Zulu! Zulu!" for Z Company. I talked to my blokes afterwards; they were amazed. One of them told me he had shouted out to me "Get your fucking head down, you stupid bastard!" I ran on, firing my rifle one-handed from my hip and I heard, behind me, my troop getting up and coming forward, also firing. The voice I remember most clearly was that of Corporal Hunt, who later got a Military Medal. I think what happened was that Corporal Hunt was the first man to follow me, his section followed him, the other sections followed, and the troop sergeant came up at the rear, kicking everybody's arse.

"So 4, 5 and 6 sections came up abreast, pepperpotting properly. I could hear the section commanders calling "section up, section down." It worked fantastically; it was all done by the three section commanders and the troop sergeant at the rear shouting to keep everybody on the move and the hare-brained troop commander out at the front.

"That assault up that hill was the greatest thrill of my life. Even today, I think of it as a divine miracle that we went up, 400 metres I think it was, and never had a bad casualty. Only one man was hurt in the troop, with grenade splinters from a grenade thrown by a man in his own section. When we had been waiting on the Start Line, I had prayed that the Lord would give me the strength and courage to lead my men and do with me what you will and He did just that."

I believe that Clive Dytor became a clergyman after leaving the Royal Marines.

Middlebrook's narrative continues:

"Marine Oyitch, left behind with the casualty group, heard his comrades charging.

"We could hear them calling out, "Commandos, Royal Marine Commandos!"; that was to let the Argies know who was going to go in and kill them. If they chose to mix with the best in the world, they were going to get burned."

Dytor's men were under fire from automatic weapons the whole way.
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От negeral
К skipper (27.03.2002 00:48:23)
Дата 27.03.2002 10:29:46

Ничего удивительного.

В округах типа бывшего САВО штык-ножи к Калашу затачивали, так как при укусе змеи или скорпиона бывает необходимо сделать надрез. Это же могли сделать любые другие бойцы любой другой армии.
От SEAL
К negeral (27.03.2002 10:29:46)
Дата 27.03.2002 11:41:02

Re: новый штык для АК ???

Добрый день !!
Я пробовал свой штык затачивать, ничего путного не вышло. А вот новые штыки для АК вроде из хорошего метелла сделаны и уже на заводе затачиваются, не видали такие ???
Игорь.
От negeral
К SEAL (27.03.2002 11:41:02)
Дата 27.03.2002 14:10:38

Re: новый штык...

Совсем новых я не знаю. Когда заканчивал служить (11 лет назад)появились штык-ножи у которых в отличие от наших ворма лезвия была V- образная и тюнинг на ручке, типа под пальцы. Шли в комплекте с такими же тюнингованными Калашами. Заточка же штык-ножа это к металлу вопрос - не думаю что он поменялся. Металл плохой (колкий), но точить - точили, уж как есть. На безрыбье и раком ну в смысле... :-))