От Олег Радько
К Рядовой-К
Дата 15.02.2015 23:49:38
Рубрики Прочее; Современность;

полевые дороги

Добрый день!
Сегодня В Артемовск доставлено 15 раненых бойцов из Д. По словам бойцов кировоградского автомобильного батальона "Чорний ліс", пробиваться довелось полевыми дорогами, потому как "дорога Лугансьпке-Логвинове" заблокирована сепаратистами.

http://www.hromadske.tv/society/do-artemivska-polovimi-dorogami-perevezli-40-poran/

С уважением.
От Рядовой-К
К Олег Радько (15.02.2015 23:49:38)
Дата 16.02.2015 00:19:04

Эх

>Добрый день!
>Сегодня В Артемовск доставлено 15 раненых бойцов из Д. По словам бойцов кировоградского автомобильного батальона "Чорний ліс", пробиваться довелось полевыми дорогами, потому как "дорога Лугансьпке-Логвинове" заблокирована сепаратистами.

> http://www.hromadske.tv/society/do-artemivska-polovimi-dorogami-perevezli-40-poran/

Дык не сравнивайте! Одно дело просочиться на паре БТРов (сплошных линий траншей а-ля ВМВ нет), да ещё и с пятой попытки на 4-й день; а другое дело вывод крупных сил. На пару-тройку машин да ещё в тумане могли просто внимания не обратить.

>С уважением.
От Олег Радько
К Рядовой-К (16.02.2015 00:19:04)
Дата 16.02.2015 00:33:31

Джеймс Марсон для Уол Спит Джорнал из Луганского

Вкратце, сегодня корреспондент наблюдал движение грузовиков с ранеными из Дебальцево. По заверениям военнослужащих, проезд в Дебальцево по обходной дороге свободен.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-cease-fire-largely-being-respected-1424011828


By JAMES MARSON
Updated Feb. 15, 2015 2:23 p.m. ET
12 COMMENTS
LUHANSKE, Ukraine—The conflict in eastern Ukraine subsided Sunday after a cease-fire came into effect, although fighting continued between Ukrainian forces and Russia-backed militants around a key railway hub.

The fierce fighting of recent weeks was replaced by sporadic exchanges after the truce went into effect on Sunday, officials on both sides said. French President François Hollande ’s office said after a telephone call with the leaders of Ukraine, Russia and Germany Sunday that they agreed that “respect for the cease-fire was generally satisfactory despite local incidents that should be quickly settled.”

But shells were still flying in and around the strategic town of Debaltseve, where heavy fighting in recent days has left a large force of Ukrainian soldiers hemmed in by the militants. Ukraine’s military said shelling by separatists intensified from mid-afternoon.


The latest cease-fire deal is the most concerted effort yet to halt months of fighting in eastern Ukraine that has caused more than 5,000 deaths. The deal was brokered by the leaders of Germany and France on Thursday after marathon talks between Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and Russian leader Vladimir Putin .

U.S. President Barack Obama spoke to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko on Saturday and the two agreed to coordinate steps in the event the deal was violated, the Ukrainian president’s office said. The Obama administration has said it is considering granting Kiev’s long-standing request for lethal military aid but will wait to see if the cease-fire holds before making a decision.

Ukraine and the militants blamed each other for continued fighting around Debaltseve.

Separatist officials have said they consider the town part of their territory and would not consider fighting there a violation of the truce. Ukraine still has a large force of several thousand defending in and around the town, and Mr. Poroshenko’s office said the leaders had agreed that the cease-fire applied along the whole front line, including Debaltseve.

Ertugrul Apakan, the chief monitor of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe’s Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine, said the separatists denied observers access to the area, where “the exchange of artillery fire” was heard at about 10 a.m. local time.

At the last Ukrainian checkpoint in the village of Luhanske some 10 miles from Debaltseve, Ukrainian soldiers said the shelling was much quieter than in previous days, even as a shell landed a couple of miles away, sending up a plume of smoke.

“It’s quiet compared to the last three days. We couldn’t lift our heads,” said a 50-year-old soldier from Kiev who gave only his call sign, Fog.


The soldiers say Debaltseve, a transport hub that connects the two main rebel strongholds, is still under heavy fire from the separatists. The Ukrainians wouldn’t allow reporters through the check point.

Debaltseve, they said, isn’t yet surrounded. There’s no access along the direct road—“Russian tanks,” snorted one soldier—and supply trucks take a circuitous route. A Ukrainian truck was carrying injured men to the nearest large town, Artemivsk, known for its winery. One man lying prone on the back of the truck raised a fist as it passed.

The road has in recent days become a gauntlet for trucks resupplying Ukrainian soldiers or bringing out the wounded. The tarmac, torn up by vehicle tracks, is strewn with the debris of war: an exploded tire, empty rocket boxes, a single black boot.
От Константин Дегтярев
К Олег Радько (16.02.2015 00:33:31)
Дата 16.02.2015 14:09:21

Справедливости ради...

>Вкратце, сегодня корреспондент наблюдал движение грузовиков с ранеными из Дебальцево. По заверениям военнослужащих, проезд в Дебальцево по обходной дороге свободен.

... корреспондент просто наблюдал движение грузовиков с ранеными, неизвестно откуда (дословно: "Украинский грузовик, перевозящий раненых в ближайший большой город, Артемовск").
Сто касается заверений украинских военных, гражданских, официальных и прочих лиц - им грош цена в базарный день, как показывает ежедневная практика. "Все врут" (с), Доктор Хаус.

>Debaltseve, they said, isn’t yet surrounded. There’s no access along the direct road—“Russian tanks,” snorted one soldier—and supply trucks take a circuitous route. A Ukrainian truck was carrying injured men to the nearest large town, Artemivsk, known for its winery. One man lying prone on the back of the truck raised a fist as it passed.
От Лейтенант
К Олег Радько (15.02.2015 23:49:38)
Дата 16.02.2015 00:17:53

Из Дебальцева или "из под Дебальцева"?

А то в репортажах Рейтерсов всяких "недалеко от Дебальцева" начинается сразу на выезде из Артемовска.