От HorNet
К realswat
Дата 29.04.2015 09:54:26
Рубрики WWII; Флот;

Re: У ЛК...


>Риски АВ при встрече с ЛК тоже как бы немаленькие. Можно утешаться мыслью о том, что "Глориес" - случайность, а бой у о. Самар - вообще американская победа, но на выходе - работа АВ вблизи чужих берегов без прикрытия тяжёлыми артиллерийскими кораблями дважды выливалась в 1000+ трупов.

Пишу для NWC новую работу, там это выглядит так:

Carriers were or could have been the targets for the guns of the battleships or cruisers in five occasions during WWII: aircraft carrier HMS “Glorious” sunk by the Kriegsmarine battlecruisers “Scharnhorst” and “Gneisenau” in Apr 1940 in Atlantic off Norway; aircraft carrier HMS “Ark Royal” had trapped within the distance of the main battery of French battlecruiser “Strasbourg” at Jul 1940 off Mers-el-Kébir, Algeria, but CO of the French ship did not approve the fire; during the Battle of Cape Matapan, Mediterranean in March 1941, aircraft carrier HMS “Formidable” had occurred to be in line of the fleet, trailing three RN battleships while they engaged the Italian heavy cruisers and destroyers in the night gunfight at the distance of mere 3500 meters, and VADM Andrew B Cunningham, RN, had been forced to use harsh language on the voice radio to throw the carrier out of the range of the Italian guns and torpedoes; escort carrier USS “Gambier Bay” had been sunk by the shelling from Japanese heavy cruisers off Leyte at 25 Oct 1944; and aircraft carrier IJNS “Chiyoda”, already damaged by USN carrier aviation, had been sunk by the gunfire from USN heavy and light cruisers with all hands lost at the same day off Cape Engano, Philippines.
От realswat
К HorNet (29.04.2015 09:54:26)
Дата 29.04.2015 10:06:15

Re: У ЛК...


>>Риски АВ при встрече с ЛК тоже как бы немаленькие. Можно утешаться мыслью о том, что "Глориес" - случайность, а бой у о. Самар - вообще американская победа, но на выходе - работа АВ вблизи чужих берегов без прикрытия тяжёлыми артиллерийскими кораблями дважды выливалась в 1000+ трупов.
>
>Пишу для NWC новую работу, там это выглядит так:

>Carriers were or could have been the targets for the guns of the battleships or cruisers in five occasions during WWII: aircraft carrier HMS “Glorious” sunk by the Kriegsmarine battlecruisers “Scharnhorst” and “Gneisenau” in Apr 1940 in Atlantic off Norway; aircraft carrier HMS “Ark Royal” had trapped within the distance of the main battery of French battlecruiser “Strasbourg” at Jul 1940 off Mers-el-Kébir, Algeria, but CO of the French ship did not approve the fire; during the Battle of Cape Matapan, Mediterranean in March 1941, aircraft carrier HMS “Formidable” had occurred to be in line of the fleet, trailing three RN battleships while they engaged the Italian heavy cruisers and destroyers in the night gunfight at the distance of mere 3500 meters, and VADM Andrew B Cunningham, RN, had been forced to use harsh language on the voice radio to throw the carrier out of the range of the Italian guns and torpedoes; escort carrier USS “Gambier Bay” had been sunk by the shelling from Japanese heavy cruisers off Leyte at 25 Oct 1944; and aircraft carrier IJNS “Chiyoda”, already damaged by USN carrier aviation, had been sunk by the gunfire from USN heavy and light cruisers with all hands lost at the same day off Cape Engano, Philippines.

Я бы в этот список вписал:
1. "Игл" у Калабрии, он сблизился до 25-30 миль с итальянскими кораблями, причём, как пишет в рапорте Каннигхем: Between 1533 and 1536 WARSPITE fired 4 salvos at each of two 6" cruisers. These cruisers were evidently of the starboard wing column which had been coming up from the Southward, but were now steering to the Eastward apparently trying to work round to get at EAGLE.

2. "Фьюриес" в составе конвоя WS-5A 25 декабря 1940 г. (см. выше по ветке http://www.vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/0/co/2691934.htm)



От HorNet
К realswat (29.04.2015 10:06:15)
Дата 29.04.2015 10:45:22

Прекрасно, спасибо (-)
От realswat
К realswat (29.04.2015 10:06:15)
Дата 29.04.2015 10:45:15

Re: У ЛК...

>Я бы в этот список вписал:
>1. "Игл" у Калабрии, он сблизился до 25-30 миль с итальянскими кораблями, причём, как пишет в рапорте Каннигхем: Between 1533 and 1536 WARSPITE fired 4 salvos at each of two 6" cruisers. These cruisers were evidently of the starboard wing column which had been coming up from the Southward, but were now steering to the Eastward apparently trying to work round to get at EAGLE.

Итальянцы, конечно, на самом деле ничего такого не хотели, но вот картинка, на которой видно, что при желании очень даже могли

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