От CANIS AUREUS
К VLADIMIR
Дата 27.05.2002 11:58:42
Рубрики WWII;

Re: Учите матчасть, это не исключения.

даю английский перевод нужной части Ванзейского протокола. У немцев никаких исключений не бывает. В смысле см. 1 пункт B.

Немецкий текст этой фразы:

b) Mischlinge 1. Grades, für die von den höchsten Instanzen der Partei und des Staates bisher auf irgendwelchen Lebensgebieten Ausnahmegenehmigungen erteilt worden sind. Jeder Einzelfall muß überprüft werden, wobei nicht ausgeschlossen wird, daß die Entscheidung nochmals zu Ungunsten des Mischlings ausfällt.




1) Treatment of Persons of Mixed Blood of the First Degree

Persons of mixed blood of the first degree will, as regards the final solution of the Jewish question, be treated as Jews.

From this treatment the following exceptions will be made:

a) Persons of mixed blood of the first degree married to persons of German blood if their marriage has resulted in children (persons of mixed blood of the second degree). These persons of mixed blood of the second degree are to be treated essentially as Germans.

b) Persons of mixed blood of the first degree, for whom the highest offices of the Party and State have already issued exemption permits in any sphere of life. Each individual case must be examined, and it is not ruled out that the decision may be made to the detriment of the person of mixed blood.

The prerequisite for any exemption must always be the personal merit of the person of mixed blood. (Not the merit of the parent or spouse of German blood.)

Persons of mixed blood of the first degree who are exempted from evacuation will be sterilized in order to prevent any offspring and to eliminate the problem of persons of mixed blood once and for all. Such sterilization will be voluntary. But it is required to remain in the Reich. The sterilized "person of mixed blood" is thereafter free of all restrictions to which he was previously subjected.

2) Treatment of Persons of Mixed Blood of the Second Degree

Persons of mixed blood of the second degree will be treated fundamentally as persons of German blood, with the exception of the following cases, in which the persons of mixed blood of the second degree will be considered as Jews:

a) The person of mixed blood of the second degree was born of a marriage in which both parents are persons of mixed blood.

b) The person of mixed blood of the second degree has a racially especially undesirable appearance that marks him outwardly as a Jew.

c) The person of mixed blood of the second degree has a particularly bad police and political record that shows that he feels and behaves like a Jew.

Also in these cases exemptions should not be made if the person of mixed blood of the second degree has married a person of German blood.

3) Marriages between Full Jews and Persons of German Blood.

Here it must be decided from case to case whether the Jewish partner will be evacuated or whether, with regard to the effects of such a step on the German relatives, [this mixed marriage] should be sent to an old-age ghetto.

4) Marriages between Persons of Mixed Blood of the First Degree and Persons of German Blood.

a) Without Children.

If no children have resulted from the marriage, the person of mixed blood of the first degree will be evacuated or sent to an old-age ghetto (same treatment as in the case of marriages between full Jews and persons of German blood, point 3.)

b) With Children.

If children have resulted from the marriage (persons of mixed blood of the second degree), they will, if they are to be treated as Jews, be evacuated or sent to a ghetto along with the parent of mixed blood of the first degree. If these children are to be treated as Germans (regular cases), they are exempted from evacuation as is therefore the parent of mixed blood of the first degree.

5) Marriages between Persons of Mixed Blood of the First Degree and Persons of Mixed Blood of the First Degree or Jews.

In these marriages (including the children) all members of the family will be treated as Jews and therefore be evacuated or sent to an old-age ghetto.

6) Marriages between Persons of Mixed Blood of the First Degree and Persons of Mixed Blood of the Second Degree.

In these marriages both partners will be evacuated or sent to an old-age ghetto without consideration of whether the marriage has produced children, since possible children will as a rule have stronger Jewish blood than the Jewish person of mixed blood of the second degree.

SS-Gruppenführer Hofmann advocates the opinion that sterilization will have to be widely used, since the person of mixed blood who is given the choice whether he will be evacuated or sterilized would rather undergo sterilization.
От CANIS AUREUS
К CANIS AUREUS (27.05.2002 11:58:42)
Дата 27.05.2002 15:24:16

Re: Стоит еще обратить внимание насчет чернявых и кучерявых

>b) The person of mixed blood of the second degree has a racially especially undesirable appearance that marks him outwardly as a Jew.

>c) The person of mixed blood of the second degree has a particularly bad police and political record that shows that he feels and behaves like a Jew.


Что в переводе означает, что если человек на еврея был ПОХОЖ, поведением и лицом, гремел туда же.

С уважением
Владимир
От VLADIMIR
К CANIS AUREUS (27.05.2002 15:24:16)
Дата 27.05.2002 16:09:40

Это подтверждение нацдебилизма. А еврей с арийской внешностью был бы ОК (-)
От Константин Федченко
К VLADIMIR (27.05.2002 16:09:40)
Дата 27.05.2002 16:20:24

читайте внимательно!

все критерии отбора "чернявых и кучерявых" касались "лиц со смешанной кровью второй степени".
С уважением
От VLADIMIR
К Константин Федченко (27.05.2002 16:20:24)
Дата 27.05.2002 18:51:08

А я прочел (+)


>все критерии отбора "чернявых и кучерявых" касались "лиц со смешанной кровью второй степени".
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Я это написал к тому, что даже чистокровные евреи с "арийской" внешностью ,случалось, умудрялись попасть в армию и даже в СС.

С уважением, ВЛАДИМИР
От Лейтенант
К CANIS AUREUS (27.05.2002 11:58:42)
Дата 27.05.2002 13:31:10

Re: Учите матчасть,...

> У немцев никаких исключений не бывает.
Подтвердить документально не могу, но слышал о том, что
1)В вермахте служило более тысячи евреев (видел по ТВ года два назад репортаж о выставке в Германии, освещавшей этот вопрос). Один такой еврей дослужился до майора и имел высочайше выданный документ примерно со следующей формулировкой "Считать такого-то арийцем. Адольф Гитлер".
3)Гебельсу часто приписывается фраза (якобы сказанная о подчиненых) "Тут я решаю, кто еврей, а кто нет".


От VLADIMIR
К Лейтенант (27.05.2002 13:31:10)
Дата 27.05.2002 14:09:14

Последняя фраза принадлежит Герингу (сказано по поводу Мильха) (-)
От VLADIMIR
К CANIS AUREUS (27.05.2002 11:58:42)
Дата 27.05.2002 12:04:58

Слово "исключение" в моем постинге отсутствует (-)