От ivan
К All
Дата 24.02.2004 17:06:54
Рубрики WWII;

Статья в New York Times за 21 февраля 2004

Видел ли кто нибудь эту интересную статью?

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/21/arts/21WAR.html?ex=1078387208&ei=1&en=04adf7ee426f3e50

Советую.

Иван
От Corporal
К ivan (24.02.2004 17:06:54)
Дата 24.02.2004 23:18:14

Спасибо, действительно интересно - особенно, про Глантца

к примеру, об уровне военного искусства в СА

"...According to the conventional view, based largely on the often-self-serving accounts of German generals, the Wehrmacht was the most operationally advanced military in the war, and Soviet tactics and performance were leaden and unimaginative in comparison; the Red Army ultimately prevailed not because it was skillful, but because it was so large.

By incorporating Colonel Glantz's findings, however, Mr. Murray of Ohio State and his co-author, Allan R. Millett, conclude in "A War to Be Won" (Harvard, 2000), their general history of the Second World War, that the Soviets' brilliant use of encirclement and what they called "deep battle" — extremely rapid, far-reaching advances behind the enemy's front lines — constituted the most innovative and devastating display of "operational art" in World War II. Soviet operations from the summer of 1944 to the winter of 1945, they conclude, were far superior to those of the German Army at its best."

или про Варшаву-44

"...In one of the most contentious debates that emerged from the war, Western historians and their governments throughout the cold war accused Stalin of deliberately holding back the Red Army from aiding the Polish uprising in Warsaw in 1944, thus tacitly permitting German forces to destroy the beleaguered Polish Home Army. But Colonel Glantz concludes, after scrutinizing the documents, that the Red Army initially made every reasonable effort to come to the Poles' assistance and later chose not to — Stalin's political considerations aside — because such action would have required a major reorientation of military efforts and a consequent slackening of the main offensive against German forces."


С уважением,
От SerB
К ivan (24.02.2004 17:06:54)
Дата 24.02.2004 17:12:31

Барахло. Опять убиты 50 миллионов русских и изнасилованы 2 меганемки (-)
От Петров Борис
К SerB (24.02.2004 17:12:31)
Дата 25.02.2004 14:01:20

2 меганемки - это класс :-)) Блин. Представил себе меганемку - сюрреализм (-)
От Александр А
К Петров Борис (25.02.2004 14:01:20)
Дата 25.02.2004 16:55:53

Да-а-а, устанешь насиловать..

Килонемок-то всякий американец смогет, а вот ты меганемку попробуй. Не всякому это по плечу или по чему там еще...

Александр