От Вадим Воскобойников
К Alex Medvedev
Дата 07.01.2005 19:52:21
Рубрики Стрелковое оружие;

Re: Там добровольное...

Уважаемые ALL,

И не в лотерею, а в домино, и не выграл а проиграл.

§ 179.22 Right of entry and examination.

Any ATF officer or employee of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms duly authorized to perform any function relating to the administration or enforcement of this part may enter during business hours the premises (including places of storage) of any importer or manufacturer of or dealer in firearms, to examine any books, papers, or records required to be kept pursuant to this part, and any firearms kept by such importer, manufacturer or dealer on such premises, and may require the production of any books, papers, or records necessary to determine any liability for tax under 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53, or the observance of 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53, and this part.

[36 FR 14256, Aug. 3, 1971. Redesignated at 40 FR 16835, Apr. 15, 1975, and amended by T.D. ATF-48, 44 FR 55842, Sept. 28, 1979]

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От Alex Medvedev
К Вадим Воскобойников (07.01.2005 19:52:21)
Дата 07.01.2005 20:39:12

И?

Может войти и проверить в рабочее время. В чем вы противоречие видите?
От S.Chaban
К Alex Medvedev (07.01.2005 20:39:12)
Дата 07.01.2005 20:53:34

Ре: И?

Привет!
>Может войти и проверить в рабочее время. В чем вы противоречие видите?

может войти к продавцу/импортеру а не к обычному владельцу...

С уважением.
От Alex Medvedev
К S.Chaban (07.01.2005 20:53:34)
Дата 07.01.2005 21:03:24

Хе!

>Привет!
>>Может войти и проверить в рабочее время. В чем вы противоречие видите?
>
>может войти к продавцу/импортеру а не к обычному владельцу...

Так чтобы иметь пулемет или пушку такая лицензия и нужна.
От Вадим Воскобойников
К Alex Medvedev (07.01.2005 21:03:24)
Дата 07.01.2005 21:58:53

Re: Хе!

Уважаемые ALL,
>Так чтобы иметь пулемет или пушку такая лицензия и нужна.
Пушку иметь нельзя. Ничего калибром больше 12,7 мм иметь нельзя.

А в остальном вот ниже все написано, а по конкретно обсуждаемому вопросу

The transferee shall retain the approved application as proof that the firearm described therein is registered to the transferee, and shall make the approved Form 4 (Firearms) available to any ATF officer on request.

§ 179.85 Identification of transferee.


If the transferee is an individual, such person shall securely attach to each copy of the application, Form 4 (Firearms), in the space provided on the form, a photograph of the applicant 2 x 2 inches in size, clearly showing a full front view of the features of the applicant with head bare, with the distance from the top of the head to the point of the chin approximately 1 1/4 inches, and which shall have been taken within 1 year prior to the date of the application. The transferee shall attach two properly completed FBI Forms FD-258 (Fingerprint Card) to the application. The fingerprints must be clear for accurate classification and should be taken by someone properly equipped to take them. A certificate of the local chief of police, sheriff of the county, head of the State police, State or local district attorney or prosecutor, or such other person whose certificate may in a particular case be acceptable to the Director, shall be completed on each copy of the Form 4 (Firearms). The certificate shall state that the certifying official is satisfied that the fingerprints and photograph accompanying the application are those of the applicant and that the certifying official has no information indicating that the receipt or possession of the firearm would place the transferee in violation of State or local law or that the transferee will use the firearm for other than lawful purposes.


[T.D. ATF-270, 53 FR 10509, Mar. 31, 1988]



§ 179.86 Action on application.


The Director will consider a completed and properly executed application, Form 4 (Firearms), to transfer a firearm. If the application is approved, the Director will affix the appropriate National Firearms Act stamp, cancel it, and return the original application showing approval to the transferor who may then transfer the firearm to the transferee along with the approved application. The approval of an application, Form 4 (Firearms), by the Director will effectuate registration of the firearm to the transferee. The transferee shall not take possession of a firearm until the application, Form 4 (Firearms), for the transfer filed by the transferor has been approved by the Director and registration of the firearm is effectuated to the transferee. The transferee shall retain the approved application as proof that the firearm described therein is registered to the transferee, and shall make the approved Form 4 (Firearms) available to any ATF officer on request. If the application, Form 4 (Firearms), to transfer a firearm is disapproved by the Director, the original application and the remittance for purchase of the stamp will be returned to the transferor with reasons for the disapproval stated on the application.

An application, Form 4 (Firearms), to transfer a firearm shall be denied if the transfer, receipt, or possession of a firearm would place the transferee in violation of law.


[T.D. ATF-270, 53 FR 10509, Mar. 31, 1988]



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От VadimV1144
К Alex Medvedev (07.01.2005 21:03:24)
Дата 07.01.2005 21:55:46

Re: Хе!

>Так чтобы иметь пулемет или пушку такая лицензия и нужна.

Нет, нужна так называемая "Класс 3" (Class 3) лицензия, а не FFL которая нужна для возможности продавать оружие.